DMarcella

Ok, I got another idea. I want a button so I can turn of the option to vote. That way I can draw and read peoples comments and not have to think about votes ever again at least for myself. I will still wish this problem would find a answer of some sorts. But for me give me a button so I can stop all votes. I asked for no votes about 4 times now and I still get votes. Another idea is to have the vote button but have no one see it except Rachel then she can post the winners and we can all be surprised. There will be no voting down because there will be just the vote button. We could probably all have a say how the ties would be settled. If I get up tomorrow and find I have a no vote button I'm turning it off and thanking Rachel. Top 5 isn't worth much, no prize like someone said, so it sure isn't worth all this mess.

DMarcella

When I asked for no votes it was on the pictures I mentioned with I never said I didn't want votes on my pictures since. It is just that I've had enough so if a no vote button comes along I will use it. In the mean time I will be happy to see who likes my pictures by way of comments and votes.

Dragon

I don't disagree with the fact that there is definite manipulation going on with the voting. I would like to say, though, that I have never seen a picture in the Top 5 that I thought "Well that sure doesn't belong to be there."
I understand that people are feeling slighted that their work isn't coming out on top (some very deservedly - some people have fantastic work that hasn't made it in) but to say 'I deserved Top 5 and that other picture didn't" that just doesn't seem right.

kmkagle

Dragon - how do you feel about someone taking your votes? I'm going to make a promise. If I leave, I am revealing who it is, so help me. I've known for a long time. They have to have the last cookie on the plate.

kmkagle

If you're going to get winning votes and comments, get them honestly. Not the way it's being done!

kmkagle

Nobody knows me enough to know how passionate I am about honesty and integrity. I will not let this go.

LadyO

Thank you, Robinkind!! You're very nice to say so.

LadyO

oops, got your name wrong! (a thousand pardons!)

Dragon

See, that is why I so rarely comment about this sort of thing. Someone always takes it personally and is offended. I really meant no offense, I never meant to imply that Km's pic's are inferior. I just mean to say I don't think it's right to say someone else's pic does not deserve to be there. Maybe it would be better if there were no top 5 at all.

Dragon

Also meant to say, I try not to offend, but it seems like when all you have to go on is typing (especially in this type of thread) someone will always seem to take offense.
You can pretty much assume that unless I call you by name I am not specifically talking about you, and even if I do single you out it is not intended to be mean spirited or blaming.

lynnspotter

KM~ Why not go ahead? You are very upset over all the mess, so go ahead. Call them out! They should be able to defend themselves if you've figured wrong, or maybe go away if revealed! I just enjoy all your work & don't want you to go away! I also don't like you being upset! Sooooooo........GO FOR IT!!!!(I'm dying to know who it is anyway!)

kmkagle

I don't want people that I care about on here mad at me for the somewhat caustic remarks I've made. The remarks are aimed at this person. The person knows I know, I'm sure, just by their remarks. It's working up. Lynnspotter, this person has caused alot of hard feelings. I can't stand this person anymore. Pretends to be sooo religious. I appreciate your caring and concern. I am not letting this go this time. I told someone long ago who this was.

Miss_Dagny

I personally enjoy the variety of work done here, Top 5 or not. I've also seen work that earned the right to be in the Top 5 that got voted down into oblivion. I'd rather not have a piece in the Top 5 if there is better work out there that didn't make it in. I want to earn it, not get there because someone else is sabotaging the system.

That said, we all know great work when we see it. Isn't it enough to know that the artists you respect show you respect in return? Should there even be a Top 5?

kmkagle

Thank you Miss Dagny, I agree, stop the top 5. BTW, you have it right on about really good work being passed up.

lilalee

Yes, I agree, this isn't elementary school, where the popular kids get the blue ribbon everytime. Comments should be good enough for adults, and just forget the votes!

kmkagle

I'll drink to that!

matthew

KM... it is no secret that you dislike me terribly...

... it is also no secret, that I am a jesus freak...

... So you might as well say my name...

... I have no fear or anything to hide...

... I have tried my best to befriend you & at a loss as to why you have such a hatred for me...

KStanley

Before I comment, I want to state for the record that I have not been following the caos closely so what I am about to say might have already been discussed. I like living in my little world of nievity and ignorance.

I was told about this site from a friend who absolutely loved it. It took me a while to check it out. Once I started I haven't been able to quit. I will admit that when I first started I wasn't to sure about the voting system myself. I didn't quite understand what the 5.4.3.2.1. was for. I at first thought that it was like a competition where everyone got a number. Most appealing to me...least appealing to me?? I decided not to vote at all until I asked my friend how it worked. Do you think that some of the voting coas could be coming form ignornace as well as mal-intention? I am not saying that the "1" vote are completely accidental but could other new-comers also be confused?

Maybe, something as simple as changing the voting scale from being a "1-5" ( which I must say is very difficult to compair with the multi faceted dimension of art that are revealed here) . I currently look through the galleries and scan to see what catches my eye. Sometimes it is the beautiful masterpiece that are created, but sometimes it is a concept that is portrayed, or originality in a piece, or even yes sometimes the title get me to take closer looks. If I stop to take a closer look ifrom me it is automatically a "5"
Now there are drawing here that I will admit have been somewhat offensive from time to time. We all know that kinds of drawing I am talking about. I don't believe that art should offend any ones personal right. And yes there have been a few that I have rated a "1" becasue of the lack of taste or consideration that this is a public site. In my eyes eveyone is intitled to there own opinions but shouldn't disrepect others from theirs.

So I guess what I was wandering is what does everyone else still like about this site?
We all know what we don't like, but is there a way to emphasize what we do like?
My suggestion...I understand would be difficult and might need an explaination, is instead of numbers maybe categories. Sort of a elementary school approach to fairness. Best use of color, best design in a showcase, originality, maybe even some of the clever title that are used, or just by styles. That way is would only come down to a calculation of most votes recieved with in a category. I know that it still would be difficult but this way it is all positive feed back and it might inspire people to try things that they wouldn't normally try. I know I have my favorite styles, colors, and even mediums, but I would probably try using object outside of my comfort zone, if I knew that it would not be disrespected for my attempt whether successful or not but reviewed for the qualities that appealed to others.

I will go back to my oblivious state and processed to draw my picture and enjoy everyone elses.

Hopefully I didn't not offend any one with my suggestions.

kmkagle

I don't recall talking to you Matthew.

matthew

Nope... but about me...