five

I found myself annoyed at another good picture being down-voted, and still annoyed a little while later. It would be nice if I didn't feel annoyed, as we really can't control how anyone votes for our pics, but I do.

I do not care whether my pictures are in Top 5. But it does sting to make a drawing and see it down-voted. I'd like to continue enjoying TD: I would like to just disallow voting on my pictures altogether and be able to enjoy making them from time to time.

Baldur

This sounds like a marvelous idea to me.

autumn

I can't draw much any more but I have to agree with your idea, I would still like to pick fav's and comment though!

lilalee

Good idea, five!!

five

Yes, autumn, I'd leave comments and favorites -- just disallow the voting.

stevedover1965

This is a good Idea, top 5 can be picked on favourites.

five

I meant a way to simply opt pictures out of voting altogether. They would not be eligible for top 5. At least the way I was thinking.

matthew

Think Draw... This is a GREAT suggestion... How difficult would it be to do??? We could check a box when we submit a pic that would "hide" the voting boxes from the viewers...

Lizzi

Since 'down-voting seems to be the cause of the problem, why noy fix just that? Revise the voting so that 5 is the only option other than to abstain. Seems ideal to me as nobody wants less than a five anyway. That would eliminate a lot of hurt feelings.

matthew

Think Draw...

Is it not time to elect leaders & give them the power to track voting abuse??? It is obvious that you either have no time or no desire to police this sight... Give us the power to police ourselves...

there are surely plenty of people that could be leaders of this sight... with the power to track voting abuse... with a 5 step process...

caught once... = private warning
caught twice... = 1 week ban
caught third time = 1 month ban
caught fourth time = 6 month ban
caught fifth time = IP address banned & public informed of your abuse

or something to that effect....

This way, voting is still anonomous to the artist, but "BIG BROTHER" "US" will be watching...

voting problem sovled...

Dragon

The only problem with that is how do you specify "Offence"? Anyone can argue that they voted with a 1 because that's what they thought the pic was worth. Logically no one votes with a 1 because why bother voting at all if it made that little impression on you but as long as the 1 vote is available then it's feasible that someone will use it honestly. It's one of those shades of grey kind of problems. I don't think we could start policing this fairly unless the 1 vote was off the table althogether and there was only the option of a Thumbs Up vote, but if that were the case then we wouldn't need to police it at all.

I wouldn't be averse at all to making the votes visible in our updates. They wouldn't need to even be made public for everyone, just for the people giving and receiving the vote. We already get an update when someone Favorite's one of pics, why not have an update that says "Dragon gave your pic ______ a vote of 5". That might keep voters more honest.

(BTW - I think you meant to spell it Site not Sight)

marg

Hmm..

1) I don't think that any TD artist should be allowed to determine anything relating to another artist [except, of course, by rating that a picture is offensive]

2) I've always believed that the 'vote' bit should be a straight accumulation, so that even down-voters add to someone's total rating

3) IF YOU IMPLEMENTED 2 ABOVE: I'd be more than happy to expose the rating value, so that everyone could see who downrated pics - as long as their vote added to the pic, it could only be supportive.

marg

Whoops, sorry..

..basically, I DO NOT believe in selected TD members being made 'leaders' or any other such idea.

If ThinkDraw ever ask us to appoint such 'leaders', I will try and ensure that the people nominated and elected are actually decent representatives of the TD community, and would be very active in fighting the nomination of some high-profile TD members.

Dragon

I know I certainly wouldn't want the responsibility being that type of 'leader'. I think you're right marg, that would likely only lead to hard feelings and accusations of unfairness.

matthew

As to what an "offense" would be... a single one vote would not be an offense, it could just be an opinion... but ten votes & nine of them are ones, that would be a red flag... an overseer would pivately inform the offender how the voting scale works to insure that they understand that a 1 vote is not a high mark. also let them know that voting down pics enmasse is not tollerated & that we have punishments in place to insure that their actions dont continue... in MOST cases, that 1st interjection will solve the problem, because most downvoters either don't know they are voting wrong or unaware that they are being watched... On the very rare occassion it does not, the punnishments will slowly weed the problem voters out...

matthew

and no ONE overseer would have power to ban anyone... the overseers would work as a group. they would all see if there is true abusive voting with disregard for anything else... then come to a consensus...

matthew

FYI: they could also probably do something about the people that have 10+ accounts that are made to vote themselves up with... (see IP addresses all the same)

I can see Mom, Dad, Kid all using the same computer, but a house of 17 people would be hard to believe...

marg

Nah.. sorry, Matthew..

I would really like ThinkDraw to change the rating system so that it's a straight accumulative score - which I firmly believe is the only fair and true way of doing it.

We already have a means of 'removing' offensive pictures, but what's causing the artist drain is people getting totally racked off with idiots downgrading pictures.

Please don't let us start appointing overseers, or doling out any punishments.. if we can just get the voting rules straightened out, I think most everybody would be ecstatic !

Login

Sorry matthew, I agree wholeheartedly with marg. The system isn't broken ... it simply needs a little tweaking on the voting procedure. A click for a vote (no 1-5 rating) would solve the issue once and for all.

Your proposed election of 'leaders' is probably an overkill and is more likely to cause trouble than to solve anything.

Lizzi

I agree with Login and Marg. Surely there is enough red tape in the world without dragging it into TD .