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1. chelydra wrote:
 Offensive? Well... here's some background... I once attended a dinner meeting of the Society of Colonial Wars, for descendants of folks who fought on American soil in pre-1775 conflicts. Why was I there? Glorious ancestors, of course. But what exactly was
2. chelydra wrote:
 ...the source of their glory (and therefore my own, since my bloodline glows with their glory)??? Well, it turned out that an ancestor or two had participated in the Great Swamp Fight on the Rhode Island Massachusetts border circa 1690.
3. chelydra wrote:
 These were the grandsons of our Mayflower ancestors (Mrs & Mrs Miles Standish, Mr & Mrs John Alden), who of course survived that first winter only because the Plymouth area's native population helped them out.
4. chelydra wrote:
 But by the later 1600s, the locals realized they were being exterminated to make way for these English immigrants. Peaceful negotiations were a sham. They declared war.
5. chelydra wrote:
 The Indians hid their women and children in an encampment on an island deep within a vast swampy forest. Then the braves went off to do battle in the open, mano a mano with the English. But the English were not there.
6. chelydra wrote:
 Not there? They chickened out? The braves waited. The day passed. Still no English. Laughing smugly among themselves perhaps, the bemused braves went back to the secret island for supper and sleep.
7. chelydra wrote:
 The rest of the story is far too offensive to publish here.
8. chelydra wrote:
 It took me about twenty years to discover why I was welcome at the Society of Colonial Wars dinner. Thanksgivings have never been quite the same innocent festivals since.
9. indigo wrote:
 How atrocious! And that the memorial has been vandalized is sad.
10. clorophilla wrote:
 terrible... even not knowing the details...
11. lesley_gene wrote:
 Pretty awful to know what our ancestor's did. I too had an ancestor on the ships...Governor Bradford.
12. pollyesther wrote:
 I always hated American history class...unacceptable means to what end? For what people; by what people? of course all my teachers were biased and afraid of the truth getting out. The forefathers Christians...I THINK NOT!
13. pollyesther wrote:
 oops, please excuse the rant...very provocative picture and story.
14. polenta wrote:
 super nice!
15. bluemoon wrote:
 wow!!
16. Lizzi wrote:
 I agree with Polly. I would 'rant' right along with her. This picture is worth a thousand words.
17. gair wrote:
 Ditto Lizzi
18. Login wrote:
 The picture shocked me five months ago but now I've read the story behind it ... thank you for that. For similar reasons, Irish history was not taught in English (grade) schools when I, as an Anglo-Irish child, was hungry for information on my ancestors.
19. Login wrote:
 No computors and only obscure references in the libraries (my only access to reference books ... 6d pocket money didn't go very far). What a pity Irish history was withheld from us; the friction between our two countries could have been resolved years ago
20. Login wrote:
 ... had we been given reasons for the conflict. As it stands now, there is relative peace but, even today, an enormous proportion of the popuklation know little or nothing of Irish history.
21. Login wrote:
 (population)
22. Radrook wrote:
 Wherever humans g they will take their predatry nature with them. That includes outer space!
23. hjjr wrote:
 astonishing pic and all-to-familiar story
24. hjjr wrote:
 all-too-familiar



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