marg

OK.. what's 't.p.' ? .. before I hazard a guess..

mostblessedone

marg, 't.p.' is toilet paper. Kugusch mentioned her nine-year-old's collection.

marg

Duhh.. my apologies for not picking up on that one.. second thoughts, I retract my apologies !

(but thanks for explaining, mostblessedone !)

(.. and can't you get a shorter name..? I've just had to type it out in full, twice in as many minutes )

Qsilv

psssst.... marg! ctrl-c, ctrl-v

matthew

(MBone)...(MB1)...(Mblessed1)

ROFL@Qsilv

marg

Hmm.. oh enlightened one.. that's fine if you know in advance that you're gunna want to type it out again !

(.. and what was that funny hissing noise I just heard ??)

Kugusch

ok, Q, give it up! You'll make a little girl very happy LOL.
The funniest thing happened yesterday. My hubby installed shelves for me to house my many, MANY books, so I've started going around and gathering them to put up. I jumped when I picked up an old one and saw a white embossed wtih blue "oddity" sticking out and thinking "cool, that's a toilet paper back from the States that she doesn't have yet" (I know, it's weird, I'm known to use single sheets as bookmarks LOL.....but sadly, it turned out to be a paper towel stuck in the book to press some flowers.

Qsilv

Well........... I dunno if this will amuse her (and/or you) or turn her all envious, but... truthfully, my all time fave's some appallingly stiff pink stuff with --I swear-- lacy almost microscopic holes all through it. Came out of the middle east in the 80's.

; D

Kugusch

rofl...I'm trying to decide whether you're serious or just pulling my leg. I couldn't possibly have found another t.p. collector!?!?!?!? That's the problem when you can't see facial expressions or hear the pitch of a voice.

mostblessedone

Marg - Originally, I applied for shorter name, but was informed my choices were already taken. But Matthew's suggestions look pretty workable. You could also go with "Ann". Might confuse others, but I would know who you were talking to

Qsilv

Oh, I'm interested in all sorts of odd things... my friends and family all know it and occasionally sacrifice their own reputation to bring me souvenirs, or at least photos... ("Why are you photographing the street kerb??" "... taking the lid off the toilet tank???" "It's just a light bulb for heaven's sakes!")

http://www.nobodys-perfect.com/vtpm/ExhibitHall/Vintage/VintageTP.html

; > ("...we don't need no stinking voice pitch!")

Kugusch

cool link, thanks! I'll have to go through that with her as soon as time allows, I've saved it. Again I'm amazed at what all is available on the internet LOL.

Aira

How did you request this showcase?

marg

Hi Aira..

I really just created this thread and we had a bit of discussion on it (see 1st page), and then Rachel joined in the discussion and agreed - which is probably why matthew's just created his new thread requesting 'animations'.

As far as I know, Rachel hasn't yet told us what the next showcase will be, but hopefully she'll let us know soon !

zeksam

I used to work in a computer animation house in the early 80's. (I know, I'm dating myself) Although I was responsible for shooting the amination, I was exposed to some extremely talented cel animators from all walks of life. We could spend days and days shooting a 30 second spot. The task was difficult, but then watching the finished product was quite rewarding. I know I am rambling, but the mention of playing back animation pieces from TD had me thinking, and wanting to let you all know a piece of what it was like back in the day before video cameras, and we were only using film.

marg

Hey, zeksam..

What a great contribution - I really love it, especially as I was recently involved in the processes for transferring film to a digital format - did you use Steenbecks ?

zeksam

Hey Marg,
We used the IMC, or the Interactive Motion Control Camera. It was invented by two guys (there names escape me) in Culver City California around 1980. This camera allowed the artwork to stay stationary, but the camera could tilt, zoom, pan, etc around the artwork. The camera was run through a computer, one of the first of its kind. The man I worked for then, just sold it, as it became obsolete many years ago with the use of video. The artwork had to be shot in individual passes. Meaning every time something needed a different light exposure it had to be shot separately. So anything that wasn't being shot had to be masked out. We could do an average of 20 passes per animated piece. So if a mistake was made on pass # 18, you had to shoot it all over again. That is why film became obsolete. The quality is perfect, but too time consuming. I think I lost my mind many times. Anyway, I know I am rambling. It feels good to talk to someone who has an interest in hearing some specific knowledge I have. Hope I didn't bore you.

marg

No way..!

I mentioned Steenbecks because the broadcasting company I was working with was trying to preserve the enormous & brilliant film collection it has - which included transferring film to a digital medium and preserving the original.

The prep for digitisation includes using a Steenbeck to synch the picture and sound in many instances - some people might not know that they were often recorded separately.

Where the 'owning' company is a responsible agency, the original film is still being repaired / cleaned / preserved and archived for future generations.

So - thanks again .. our playing with 'animation' on Think Draw has a lot to thank you guys for !

zeksam

Yes, Steenbeck were being used by many people who worked within the production process. The name is so familiar, but can't remember specifically who used it. Fun hearing the word Steenbeck, haven't heard it in over 20 or 25 years. Interesting about the specifics of perserving a film. Work like that is priceless, and many people will have you to thank in the future. We take so much for granted, preservation of art being one of them.

marg

Sorry.. I said that wrong - I just found out about the work being done - there was actually a really great young Canadian guy, who was master-minding the work (and continuing his predecessors' efforts !)