Baldur

Here is an interesting chart made up of collective names of animals taked from the Wikipedia site.
I am posting this as a link because of the size of the chart, when baldur tried to copy it for Thinkdraw it came up without the grid which caused it to be very confusing.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_collective_nouns_for_animals

Normal

What a great resource, Baldur. I love a "rasp of guinea hens." And I said I met a tribe of donkeys wild in the Black Hills, but I could have said a "coffle of donkeys!" Who knew?

Polenta - interesting question. I think most monotheism still fosters duality: I & it, us & them, me & you. A Course in Miracles helps us see the true singularity, though it is terribly difficult to remember. The Native Americans had the closest idea, calling the entire natural world "all my relations." It's an idea we need, because when we do it to another, we do it to ourselves. The great Teacher tried to tell us this 2000 years ago and we still don't get it.

Dragon

My particular favorites have always been a murder of crows and a parliment of owls. I will say though that I rather like the battalion of falcons. Most of those on the list were completely new to me, I'd definitly think twice about crossing a horde of hamsters.

polenta, that tongue recipe does sound wonderful. I would dig into that in a heartbeat if it was offered to me, as Hazer said though, when I was a child I would have turned my nose up at it. How much better it is to be mature and be willing to try new things!

polenta

My ignorance leads me to questions about this duality Normal mentions. If the Devil exists, is its power the same as God's power? I don't really know what modern monotheistic religions say about this.
Collective names are awesome!!!! Also studying the noises or animal's "speech" is interesting but difficult.
I wonder what the collective names for people is . LOL

polenta

Dragon, since Uruguay has more cattle than people, we tend to use all the parts of the cow but of course tenderloin is much more expensive than tripe.
Former gauchos (cowboys) in the XIX Century countryside are said to have killed a cow when they were hungry, eaten a steak and left the rest..... Finding food for them was so easy and so abundant.... it's probably a legend but you find this in History texts... and there must be some truth in it. CHEAP PROTEIN..,.. lucky them!!!!

polenta

In the grid, it's very interesting that some animals have ANOTHER NAME if considered as meat or food.
I also see that they consider human beings.... I thought they wouldn't. Thanks Baldur, I saved it to have it in my English vocabulary file. It's very useful for me.

polenta

I'm really talkative tonight.... and curious.
What kind of cold meat cuts are sold in US or elsewhere? I know salami is one and pepperoni is another. Of course, ham is a must. I've heard of pastrami which must be the breast of the cow. What else is there? Do you have something called mortadela (maybe mortadella in Italian). Here mortadela is so widely used and very cheap.

polenta

http://www.google.es/images?um=1&hl=es&rlz=1T4GFRE_esUY372UY373&biw=1345&bih=5 35&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=mortadela&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Baldur

Here is a quick list there are many more choices:
Bologna
Mortadella
Veal Loaf
Pickle Loaf (Veal loaf with chopped pickles mixed in)
Olive Loaf (the same with Spanish Olives instead)
German Salami
Genoa Salami
Pepperoni
Liverwurst
Boiled Ham
Baked Ham
Polish Ham
Spiced Ham
Honey Ham
Westphalian Ham
Turkey Ham
Liverwurst
Turkey Breast
Roast Beef
Corned Beef
Sweet Capicola
Boiled Tongue (yes, in some places you can purchase this ready made)

There are more subdivisions to the above as well. Some are available in lower fat versions, reduced sodium vesrions and in various degrees of spiciness. A large market may have many different brands of one type of Bologna for example.

In the same department there would also be cheese that they would slice for sale for use in sandwiches.
American cheese has been mentioned on this site before, it is a highly processed 'cheese-food' product, not an artisan type of cheese.
Also there would be:
Swiss Cheese (Ementaler)
Cheddar Cheese
etc etc

In the same department you would find 'cooked' sausages such as frankfurters, ready made salads and side dishes.
Hot Capicola

Baldur

Back to the words for animals and specifically animal meat...
In English one would never say that one is going to the market to buy cow meat or pig meat. The word used would universally be beef and pork.
Oddly chicken, duck, turkey and fish remain the same.
The language rules are quite odd at times.

Baldur

To the cheese list add
Provolone
Monterrey Jack
Pepper Jack (Monterrey Jack with chopped jalepenos in it)

Baldur

Salads might include those dressed with mayonaisse such as:
Pasta Salad
Potato Salad
Cole Slaw
Egg Salad
Tuna Salad
Chicken Salad

Other items such as:
Spanish Olives
Greek Olives
Marinated tiny balls of Mozzarella Cheese
Marinated Bean Salad
Pickled Beets

Baldur

Marinated baby mushrooms
Kosher style dill pickles

Baldur

In a Jewish market it would be possible to also purchase Chopped liver.
In aFrench, German or Polish style market there would also be Pates'.

Actually in those markets there are many other types of sausages as well.

Baldur

Pates' = s = Pate'

Baldur

Happt Birthday to Princess Jaliah bint Ali, Nick Jonas, Marc Anthony, Richard Marx, David Copperfield, Earl Klugh, Mickey Rourke, Henry Louis Gates, David Bellamy, Ed Begley Jr., Peter Falk, BB King, Charlie Byrd, Lauren Bacall, Allen Funt, King Henry V and Hildegard of Bingen.

polenta

Do you know what I did when I saw the cold meat list? Of course, save it and put it in my English vocabulary list. Thanks Baldur.
If I could eat salty things, I would eat them all. Today I bought salami for my hubby and saltless ham for me.
Being a vegetarian, Baldur, do you eat seitan or gluten?
I have link to a video about how to make it and I wonder if diabetics could eat seitan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H2qzA50jZQ

Arw65

Polenta I did some research and it appears that mortadela is the same or very similar to Bologna-(Buh-Lone-EE).- It is one of the only 'deli-meats' that i won't touch- but it is very popular- though i cannot imagine why- nasty stuff in my opinion.- but to each his own, i suppose.

Hazer

No one seems to be tackling your first question Polenta. . . Does the Devil exist and if so does he have the same power as God. I'll answer according to what I believe, which is what the Bible teaches, and that is that yes, the Devil exists. He began as an angel who thought himself to be more powerful than God. In his attempt to overthrow God he has been cast out of heaven, taking with him many lesser angels. His mission has been to kill and destroy all that God holds dear. He is deceptive and cunning in his attempt to keep us from knowing God's truth and experiencing God's best intentions for us. Satan's desire is to be worshiped as God is worshiped. He thought he had won when Christ was crucified on the cross, but he does not hold power over death. Christ rose from the dead and defeated Satan.
Although the Devil and his angels are allowed to roam this earth their powers have been diminished to that of a toothless old lion. He relies now on deceit, ignorance and scare tactics.

Baldur

Baldur is definitely not a theologian